A couple of months ago I read a Geek Twins article and it talked about how Man of Steel 2 would have had a "less murderous" Superman. It reminded me of the double standard that exists between Marvel and DC when it comes to movies.
Man of Steel is a perfect example. By 2013 every Marvel villain except Loki had died (or at least we thought Red Skull was dead). No one gave a shit that Obadiah Stane, Abomination, Whiplash, Red Skull*, or those fiery AIM people in Iron Man 3 died or that they were killed directly or indirectly by the hero. It was fun! Yet when Superman kills Zod to keep him from barbecuing a family that apparently didn't have good sense to run away long before then, everyone loses it. OMG, Superman can't kill! How dare you!
Similarly the year before the Avengers fought an alien invasion of New York and trashed much of the city. No one cared. It made a billion dollars. It was fun! Yet when Superman fights rogue Kryptonians in Metropolis everyone loses it. OMG, you can't destroy buildings! What about 9/11? That's so disrespectful! Wait, so it's OK for Marvel to destroy much of the actual New York but DC can't destroy fictitious Metropolis because that's too much like 9/11? Say what?
Batman v Superman comes out and everyone whines that it's too dark. It's no fun! Avengers Infinity War comes out with the heroes losing and half the universe dying and everyone says, Genius! They're so brilliant! So when DC does a dark movie it's bad but when Marvel does it, it's genius? Gotcha. And before you say how much better Avengers 3 was, go back and read my review. It was rife with plot holes, the central one being that the infinite fucking universe is overpopulated. I mean the Milky Way Galaxy is like a grain of sand on a beach. Yet look at the Rotten Tomatoes scores of BvS and Avengers 3. One bleak movie rife with plot holes is so much worse than another bleak movie rife with plot holes. How does that make sense?
I saw the "Honest Trailer" for Captain America: Civil War (like me they even called it Avengers 2.5) and while it's satire it riffs on the same thing: BvS and Civil War are largely the same movie, so why is one reviled and the other loved? Admittedly Civil War is a slicker production, but it's not perfect either. The villain's plan is so overly complicated that he'd have to have the ability to see the future to make it happen.
It reminds me of politics. Trump can make fun of a handicapped reporter, say to grab women by the pussy, call Mexicans rapists and "bad dudes," throw Starbursts at a world leader, and all sorts of other atrocities but if a mediocre comedian makes fun of Sarah Sanders or calls Ivanka Trump a cunt or a Democrat uses some naughty language then there's all this whining and whinging about not being "civil." It just doesn't make sense. In this scenario DC is the liberals; they can do the same as Marvel and yet they'll be criticized for it while Marvel is hailed as brilliant.
It doesn't really make sense to me. Maybe there's some reason for it. I don't know. It's pretty ridiculous to me.
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The double standard does exist and it's so ridiculous, but it's not helped out by DC's alleged "fans"
And even better than the examples mentioned is Justice League and Avengers...both involved Joss Whedon and everyone shouted how amazing he was with Avengers and yet he stepped in to help finish JL when Snyder's daughter died people say he ruined the movie and I can't even look at a DC group anymore because all it's ever about is ignorant fools demanding WB "release" the "Snyder cut" of JL, which doesn't exist, but that doesn't deter these fools.
From what I've seen so far I think the biggest difference between Marvel and DC is that Marvel fans simply love everything Marvel comes out with and they never go too deep into it because then their house of cards falls apart with plot holes and ridiculousness while DC fans seem to be a far more toxic bunch who want everything to be EXACTLY like it was in some comic book they read and when it doesn't exactly match up they gnash their teeth and complain which doesn't help their cause because there's a subset of Marvel fans who instantly hate on anything DC does and then DC's own fans hate on it and I think that's where a lot of the problem comes in...too many toxic fans on both sides with access to internet devices :(
Marvel simply remakes the first Iron Man whenever they introduce a new hero and everyone laps it up like it's better than the last film even though it's just a refinement on a film they've seen half a dozen times now lol. Apparently it's a formula that works for them and they either don't mind or don't notice that it's just the same thing over and over.
I don't even know what would make DC fans happy at this point...they just seem like a particularly toxic and unhappy lot who can't appreciate anything because none of the DC films are really THAT bad, except maybe Suicide Squad lol.
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