Friday, August 16, 2019

The Snyder Cut: Fandom's Bigfoot

Ever since Zack Snyder left production of Justice League ostensibly because of his child's suicide, fans have been clamoring for the mythical "Snyder Cut" of the movie.  Even over two years later people are still debating whether or not it exists and whether or not it should be released.  Besides fans "experts" and celebrities like Kevin Smith have weighed in on it.

For what it's worth, I don't think there's a real, finished product out there.  As some people on Twitter have mentioned if there's anything it's probably a rough cut or "assembly," the sort of thing the crew watches to see if they got what they needed.  That being the case not only would it probably be 3-4 hours long, but also it would look like shit.  Have you ever seen the actual footage of a big CGI-heavy movie before they add all the effects in?  There are green screen backgrounds, people in motion capture suits, and basically people pantomiming because the lasers and whatnot haven't been added.  (And Superman would have a mustache, as was reported on to death.)  It would be laughable to watch more than a few minutes.

Unlike a lot of fans, let me apply some logic here.  Justice League was a flop even though it made like $800 million worldwide.  Now if there were a finished product of an alternate version, don't you think WB would have released it by now to make some extra money to offset their losses?  I mean this is the same company that released THREE versions of Snyder's Watchmen on DVD:  the theatrical cut, Director's Cut, and Ultimate Cut that included the animated material originally put out as a separate product.  And again with Snyder's Batman v Superman there were two editions:  the theatrical version and Ultimate edition.  They're clearly not adverse to putting out multiple versions of one movie if it suits them, especially Zack Snyder movies.

So if there were a finished alternate version of the movie they'd just be leaving money on the table and considering how the movie performed, I doubt they'd do that.

On someone's blog I read recently she talked about the deeper issue here:  the spoiled fandom that in the age of social media thinks it's entitled to whatever it wants.  I mean like all those idiots signing online petitions to completely remake season 8 of Game of Thrones because they didn't like it.  Or wanting to refilm The Last Jedi, something I would support, though not for the racist reasons as a lot of the people supporting that.  I'd want to refilm it for story content, not to erase ethnic characters.  But unlike a lot of fans I know that's unrealistic.  There's no way HBO would spend the millions and millions of dollars to reshoot a new season of Game of Thrones.  And even then, who decides what the ending would be?  Do we take an online poll?

And even if HBO did that or even if WB released "The Snyder Cut" do you think fans would be happy?  I doubt it.  They'd just bitch about something else.  There'd probably be conspiracy nuts saying "That's not the REAL Snyder Cut!  Release the REAL Snyder Cut!"  Even if Zack Snyder himself went to their houses and showed it to them, they'd still deny it.  Because some people are just like that.  Unfortunately in the age of social media those people can actually be heard.

There's that old story about a guy who tried to please everyone and wound up pleasing no one.  That's why most of these whiny fan petitions don't get listened to:  even if companies went to the time and expense of trying to please them they'd still bitch about something.  And if you give them an inch they'd take a mile as the old saying goes; you give them the Snyder Cut and then they'll want all kinds of shit.

I'm just saying.

4 comments:

Christopher Dilloway said...

I find the people asking for "the Snyder Cut" of the film to be rude and insulting. The man left the project after losing his child. that's a hard blow for a parent no matter who they are. If his mind isn't on making the film, then they did the best thing and let him go. these entitled fans don't give a crap, they want...EXPECT...their demands be satisfied regardless of the situation. And those toxic asshats pretending to be fans can all go jump off a cliff. Tell them the "Snyder Cut" is at the bottom and watch them fall like lemmings.

It doesn't exist. It will never exist.

Maurice Mitchell said...

I agree. The Snyder Cut movement would be a minor curiosity if not for the toxic fandom. Not only do they defend Snyder as the second coming but insist that every movie he’s made is pure gold. Frankly I find his work pretty but lacking anything that anyone would call film making. His take on Watchmen is the worst interpretation they could ever have made. But whatever. There are lots of bad movies and I just don’t watch them.

What makes the Snyder Cut fans so terrible is they insist that not only are they right but everyone that dislikes his work is a moron and a simpleton. No we just don’t like his overly violent and amoral interpretation of the world.

I almost wish they did get the Snyder Cut to confirm what every thinking person knows. It’s terrible. I haven’t seen it but I’ve seen everything else he’s made and it’s terrible. But to your point if there even a possibility it’s the Citizen Kane of superhero movies Warner would already have put out 12 different version on Blu-ray. It won’t get made because you can’t polish a turd.

PT Dilloway said...

I love Watchmen. It was about as close to the comic as it was possible to make. The Dawn of the Dead reboot was good. Sucker Punch is a beautiful mess. BvS was ambitious but deeply flawed. 300 is big, loud, and dumb--so pretty much like the source material.

Tony Laplume said...

It's ironic that the internet community that decided (well, maybe not the exact same people) that decided Snyder was the poison that ruined the DCEU now clamors for the movie that drove him from it. I personally think Snyder's a great talent. I even like the Whedon version of Justice League. Clearly there's some finished footage from a "Snyder cut," insofar as the stuff that appeared in trailers that didn't make it into the theatrical release. But there's also the idea that the Snyder version would also sort of be a version Warner is never going to want, which is one that continued in the direction, with sequels, that is not going to happen. That might be the best explanation for why Warner hasn't rushed to release something.

So instead we get a strange new kind of cult phenomenon, something that nobody has seen but that a lot of people believe is fully worth championing. Would these same people be as positive if the thing had actually been released in theaters? Given the track record, probably not.

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